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Hi guys !

I decided to post the topic to make finding any info about our mod ( MTW and RTW edition) easier.

I will use this thread to answer any questions I am able to understand
( in English or in Polish) and give any answers about present and future releases of this mod and to support your 'Ogniem i Mieczem TW' mod.

So here is the link to the thread in the Polish Total war - latest SCREENSHOTS can be seen there

1.- http://totalwar.org....t=685&start=285

It is the 20th page of screenshot topic !

RTW unit screens are from Ronin - you know him I am sure.

The P&M TW thread in the Lords forum is here

2.- http://www.thelordz....opic.php?t=2617

Later I will add more links as well ( in the ORG we will have our sub-forum so no links for this now).


And now in Polish.

Cześć chłopaki !

Przeznaczeniem tego tematu jest informowanie o naszym P&M TW modzie - zarówno na engine MTW jak i RTW.

Ułatwi to współpracę z waszym zespołem ( mod "Ogniem i Mieczem") i uczyni znalezienie wszelkich nowych informacji o P&M TW znacznie łatwiejszym.

Będę informował o obecnych i nowych edycjach tego moda i odpowiadał na pytania, które będę mógł zrozumieć - zarówno po polsku jak i angielsku.

Linki powyżej prowadzą do :

1. Forum Polish Total War, tematu gdzie znajdują się najnowsze screenshoty - wtym do edycji na RTW autorstwa znanego wam Ronina.

2. Do forum NTW, gdzie mod P&M TW ma stałą rubrykę.




I am sorry that I cannot answer your questions in Ukrainian or in Russian - I have learnt ( yesterday) the alphabet and I am able to understand only sentences the most similar to Polish.

Actually I don't know why should I learn it at all because my favourite kremlin expert Siergiey Markov revealed that Poland will rule the word soon, so most likely learning Polish will be obligatory in few years' time.
BTW I am supposed to take Vladivostock, do you think it is hard ? ;)

Anyway - see you soon !

And again in Polish.



Przykro mi, że nie mogę odpowiedzieć na wasze pytania sformułowane po ukraińsku lub rosyjsku, ale moja znajomość tych języków ogranicza się do słów najbardziej podobnych do wyrazów obecnych w języku polskim, a cyrylicy nauczyłem się dopiero wczoraj, co wiele nie pomogło.

W zasadzie nie wiem po co wogule zawracam sobie tym głowę - jak to wyjawił mój ulubiony kremlowski ekspert Siergiej Markow Polska wkrótce będzie rządziła światem, więc język polski będzie obowiązkowy za kilka lat.

Przy okazji - Moim zadaniem będzie podbicie Władywostoku - myślicie że jest to trudne ? ;)

W każdym razie - do zobaczenia wkrótce !


Regards i Pozdrowienia - Cegorach :)
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So here is the unit list - it is from P&M TW for the MTW, so more units can be added as well.

The names are in national languages, some units will be also available as mercenaries, regional troops or for several factions.
Units unique for one faction only are marked with #

Infantry units marked with @ are armed with muskets/arquebus


I will post it in Polish later. Some of these you know - these are thanks to 'Ogniem i Mieczem TW' team.




FOR MANY FACTIONS or all of them ( cultures)
Artillery:
Organ Gun,
Mortar,
Demi-Culverin,
Culverin Crew,
Mercenary Cannon,
Serpentine,
Siege Cannon,

Infantry:
Archers,
Urban Militia - halberd,
Town Militia - musket @
Pavisiers - big shield and spear/half-pike
Pavise Arbalesters - the last crossbowmen,
Arquebusiers @

Muslim Feudal Levy - only Muslim factions ( except Tatars), a typical 'cannon fodder',

Wagon Infantry - hard to create, maybe a form of field fortifications.

Cavalry:
General - different for different cultures,
Lancers - basic heavy cavalry from late Medieval,
Demi-Lancers - for western factions,
Mounted Crossbowmen,
Eastern Lancers - lighter than western lancers,
Mounted Arquebusiers,

ADVANCED:
Line Infantry @
Grenadiers @
Regimental Cannons - movable from Lords,

DISMOUNTED CAVALRY - if possible
Nobles - several eastern european cavalry units,

Dismounted armoured cavalry - eastern european and ottoman heavier cavalry,

Knights - or rather sword & buckler - several western european cavalry units should dismount into them, also available as an infantry unit for some factions ( e.g. the Knights);

Dismounted Cavalry - modern, western cavalry units will dismount into this;

REBELS
Fanatics - spear or whatever they could find,
Rebel Marksmen - experts at hiding, @
Peasants - massive units of spear/pikemen
Peasant Guerillas - expert at hiding,

REGIONAL
Czeremisi - VOLHYNIA AND VOLGA-BULGARIA - nomad cavalry
Uskok - DALMATIA @, guerillas;
Musketyri - BOHEMIA @ Czech musketeers for Protestant factions,
Wallon Pikemen, ------
Wallon Corselets - 'corselets' so heavy, armoured pikemen, -------> regional in Flandres
Wallon Musketeers @ ------


MERCENARIES - many more units will be available as mercenaries e.g. Cossacks, Scots, Swiss etc. But here are the units which will be available as mercenaries ONLY,

Infantry------>
Lancknecht Pikemen,
Lancknecht Halbardiers,
Lancknecht Armoured Pikemen,
Doppelsoldner - doublehanded swords
Lancknecht Arquebusiers @,
Mercenary Musketeers, @
Mercenary Pikemen,
Italian Arquebusiers - IN ITALY @
Italian Corselets
Italian Pikemen

Cavalry---->
Free Lancers - german mercenaries,
Mercenary Dragoons,
Reiter - IN GERMANY
Mercenary Cuirassiers
Albanian Stradiots - IN ITALY - albanian/greek/serbian light cavalry,


THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

Infantry------->

'cannon fodder'
Sekbans# - peasantry,
Azebs# - a shield and an axe,
Tufekchi # - musket armed, so better; @

brigands & pirates
Martolos - greek bandits, @
Levends # - anatolian bandits @
Panduks - marksmen from Bosnia @
Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa - algerian pirates,

Jannissaries
Zirhli Nefer# - heavy infantry, polearms;
Okchu Yenicheri# - jannissari archers,
Tufekchi Yenicheri# @

Cavalry----->

border, light cavalry, also Ghazi
Akinji#
Deli#

feudal cavalry
Timarli Sipahi# - heavier cavalry,
Jebel&uuml # - horse archers,

elite cavalry
Kirmizi Bayrak # - majority
Ashaghi Boluks # - guardians of the Prophet's Banner
Sari Bayrak# - Sultan bodyguards,

balcan auxiliary, heavier cavalry, probably there is a better name for them I'll check
Voynuk


GEORGIA - #ALL

Infantry---->
Aragvlebi
Mtiulebi
Kveiti Meomrebi
Metopheni @

Cavalry------>
Elite Mkhedrebi
Shubosani Mkhedrebi


RUSSIA - #- ALL

Infantry---->

musket/arquebus armed
Pishchalshchiki @
Streltsy @
Soldaty @
Vybranniye Soldaty @

pikemen
Streletskiye Kopeyshchiki
Kopeyshchiki
Vybranniye Kopeyshchiki

others
Dismounted Ryndy
Opolcheniye

Cavalry----->

feudal cavalry
Pomestnaya Konnitsa
Znat
Ryndy

reformed
Reytary
Draguny

russian copies of Polish cavalry types
Gusary
Stremenniye Kopeyshchiki

others
Stremenniye Streltsy
Sluzhiliye Kazaki
Tatarskaya Konnitsa


MOLDAVIA

infantry--->
Razesi - basic peasant infantry,
Calarisi# - elite infantry --- both armed with bows,

cavalry-->
Oastea Mare Cavalry - mounted Razesi,
Wallachian Cavalry
Wallachian Horse Archers
Oastea Mica Viteji - Moldaviam retainers armed with bows,
Oastea Mica Boyars - Moldavian/Transylvanian elite,

POLAND - #-ALL EXCEPT "Lisowczycy" who are mercenaries,

Cavalry---->

professional
Petyhorcy - 'semi-Winged Hussars',
Pancerni - medium cavalry,
Husaria - Winged Hussars
Kozacy- armoured, ancestors of Pancerni;
Strzelcy - horse archers supporting polish cavalry in earlier period,
Dragoni - polish dragoons,
Rajtarzy - polish cuirassiers,
Tatarzy - Polish/Lithuanian Tatars,
Wolosi - polish light cavalry from later period,

noble levy - 'pospolite ruszenie'
Szlachta
Kresowa Szlachta - better in combat, from Ukraine,

mercenaries, for Poland 'normal' unit
Lisowczycy - scums, cutt-throats and brigands - probably the best light cavalry at that time,


Infantry------>
Piechota wybraniecka @

reformed
Piechota lanowa @
Muszkieterzy @ -------
Pikinierzy --------> both units are of 'foreign design'

COSSACKS

Infantry---------->

Ukrainian Peasants - 'cannon fodder', numerous and cheap;#

Molodyki - young Cossacks, light pikes, 'cannon fodder';#

Zaporozhye - 'core' infantry, good musketeers; @

Serdjuks - elite musketeers;# @

Plastuny - Cossack foot scouts, hide everywhere, marksmen;# @

Harakterniki - cossack legendary warriors, hide everywhere, hard to get;#

Cavalry-------->

Storozha - Cossack horse scouts, hide in long grass;#

Reyestrovie - basic cavalry, average quality;

Dzhura - cossack bodyguards, god quality cavalry;#

SWEDEN - #ALL

Infantry------->

early
Svennar
Dalkarlar
Kungliga Majestats Drabanter - halbardiers, king's bodyguards;

reformed
Musketerare @
Pikenerare
Svenska kommanderade musketyrer - 'commanded' musketeers; @
Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente @ - elite unit,

Cavalry------>
early
Landsryttare - rubbish cavalry from the XVIth century;
Svarta Ryttarna - something better, good cavalry;

reformed
Upplands ryttare - elite cuirassiers,
Dragoner - swedish dragoons,
Smalands ryttare
Hakkapeliitta - Finnish cavalry

PORTUGAL - #ALL
Piqueiro Ligeiro - portuguese light pikemen;
Marinheiro Portugues - portuguese sailors

arquebusiers on camels !
Arcabuzeiros de Goa,

FRANCE #-ALL

Infantry ---->

early
Royal Swiss Pikemen - french elite in earlier period,
French Royal Foot Arquebusiers @
French Royal Foot Pikemen

Enfants Perdus - French Forlorn Hope,

reformed ( Richelieu)
French Musketeers @
French Pikemen
Mousquetaires du Roi @ - famous from Dumas novels,

Cavalry---->

early
Gendarmes de la Garde - elite lancers
Argoulets - elite mounted arquebusiers,

reformed
French Light Cavalry - similar to dragoons,
French Heavy Cavalry - cuirassiers,
Mousquetaires du Roi - elite, dismountable



THE NETHERLANDS

Infantry--->
Watergeuzen# @ - fanatic Protestant guerillas

pikemen
Piekeniers met rondas # - pikemen with shields,
Pikeniere#

musketeers
Musketiere# @

Cavalry---->
Ghemeijn ruyteren# - light cavalry,
Gheappoicteerde curassiers# - cuirassiers,

HAPSBURG - AUSTRIA, HRE

Infantry---->
Musketiers @
Piekeniers
Verlorne Haufe - Forlorn Hope !
Rondartschiere#
Fortified Musketeers# @ - slow musketeers protected vs. cavalry ( mostly),

Cavalry ------>
Croats - light cavalry,
Croat Grenzers - croat border guards,
Empire Cuirassiers#
Imperial Dragoons

LIVONIAN CONFEDERACY ( OR TEUTONIC ORDER)
Courland Reiters - cuirassiers

CRIMEAN KHANATE ( Tatars)
Kirim Suvari# - elite
Izci Tatarlar - scouts, hide in long grass !!
Kipchak Asker# - horse archers,
Atli Tatarlar - basic, 'core' cavalry,
Nogay Asker# - poor nomads,
Tatars with arkans# - slave hunters,

Infantry
Keffe Bekci# - crimean Jannissaries @

SPAIN #-ALL

Infantry----->
Rodeleros
Guardia Tudesca - halbardiers
Alguaciles - Spanish town guards,

projectiles
Arcabuceros @
Ballesteros - albalesters
Forrajeros @ spanish musketeers using looten weaponry,
Mosqueteros @
Mosqueteros - REFORMED @

pikes
Corseletes - heavy pikemen
Picas Secas
Piqueros
Piqueros - reformed unit

special
Encamisados - hide everywhere,

Guardia Real - elite

Cavalry---->
Archeros - elite heavy cavalry,
Celadas -------
Celadas - later period -------- light cavalry,
Dragones ---- dragoons
Herreruelo -----cuirassiers
Nueva Guardia - elite cuirassiers


DANEMARK
Infantry ----->
Snapphanar# ambush experts, guerillas and brigands @

Cavalry ---->
Musefanen# - light cavalry,
Rostjenste# - elite heavy cavalry,
Nationale Ryttere# - national cavalry from later period,


SWITZERLAND
Swiss Pikemen
Swiss Armoured Pikemen#
Swiss Halberdiers

THE KNIGHTS
infantry
Order Militia# @

VENICE, GENOA
infantry
Scapoli - marines, armed for naval combat - boarding actions, armed with sword and shield,

FLORENCE
cavalry
Bande Nere# - the Black Band - renegate mounted Lancknechts,


HOUGENOTS

cavalry
Millers# - cuirassiers,

HUNGARY
Infantry---->
Haiduks @ - hungarian infantry
Harami @ - croat infantry

Cavalry---->
Szekely Hussars#
Hungarian Hussars#
Rac


SCOTLAND
Highland Clansmen#
Scottish Archers
Scottish Pikemen
Scottish Musketeers @
Montrose's Musketeers# - veteran unit able to beat enemy cavalry in melee; @

IRELAND

Infantry------>

Omacach - elite melee infantry;

Enniskillen Fusiliers - elite musketeers, 'bulletproof vests'; @

Oaghancocharan - elite marksmen and ambush fighters; @

Kernbannal - basic rebels, javelins;

Galloglaidh - axe wielders, elite melee unit;

Cavalry------>

Hobilars - good quality lancers with javelins;

Taghhoba - good quality mounted arquabusiers;


EGYPT - some units also for the Ottomans,

Infantry------->
Mamluk Handgunners#, @
Ashirs - syrian militia,

Cavalry------>
Mamluk Horse Archers#
Saharan Cavalry
Mamluk Cavalry

Camels
Bedouin Camel Guns# - light cannons,
Bedouin Camel Warriors

ENGLAND

Infantry------>
Longbowmen#
Sprinkler Men#
Billmen#
Trained Band Billmen#
Trained Band Musketeers# @
Trained Band Pikemen#

cavalry--->
Border Reivers - border cavalry from the north,

New Model Army-->
Ironsides#
New Model Army Musketeers# @
New Model Army Pikemen#

SAXONY
Saxony LifeGuards# - cuirassiers

BAVARIA
Bavarian Black Cuirassiers - Pappenheimer's cavalry

BRANDENBURG

HANSA

Hansa Town Militia - halbardiers

NAVARRAE



I will edit this post if something serious will be changed.

ALL these units are already available in the MTW edition of this mod - check the thread in the Engineers Guild and my sign for downloads.
The units will appear in 0.7 beta pre-release.

ALL these units are known in details ( mostly), which allows recreating them in the RTW engine mod.

Regards Cegorach ;)
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Generally, this is my skrin! <_< We working with Ronin together.

Sorry, for my inglish...

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Hi, Cegorach, Lance!!

Look, that's not bad!! So what that already works under Rome ?
BTW, why Streltsi are without muskets?

Russian:
Слушай а не плохо! И чтоб под Ромом это уже все работает ?
Кстати а чего а чего стрельци без пещалей ?
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2 Sabudai:
Да под римом ето работает!!! :D
а без мушкетов они потомучто мушкеты ещё в работе.
Анимация мушкетёров ещё не готова.
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Generally, this is my skrin! <_< We working with Ronin together.

Sorry, for my inglish...

Sorry, I didn't now it. Only recently I was able to read some of your earlier posts in 'Ogniem i Mieczem' thread, and now I know it is your work. Very good I believe. Congratulations !


regards Cegorach ;)

P.S. What do you think should I use English or Polish ? :unsure:
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Poprobuj Polski!
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Poprobuj Polski!

OK

Lista jest już poprawiona. Mozesz tlumaczyc ;)
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Sorry, I didn't now it

no problem!


Very good I believe. Congratulations !

thanks!
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А как вы зафигачили в параметры мушкеты? Как создавать новое оружие?
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Poprobuj Polski!

OK

Lista jest już poprawiona. Mozesz tlumaczyc ;)

"Lista jest już poprawiona. Mozesz tlumaczyc ;)"
List is already corrected so I can translate? That is that you said?
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Poprobuj Polski!

OK

Lista jest już poprawiona. Mozesz tlumaczyc ;)

"Lista jest już poprawiona. Mozesz tlumaczyc ;)"
List is already corrected so I can translate? That is that you said?

Yes / TAK :angel:
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P&M TW 0.7. is ready.

What is new -

- new panels and cursors ( 3 to choose from),

- new historical battles and a historical campaign,

- 21 new units:

Landsryttare,SvartaRyttarna(Sweden),CroatGrenzers,WallachianHorseArchers, Harami, Szekely Hussars ( Hungary + Hapsburgs sometimes),
Imperial Dragoons, FortifiedMusketeers (Hapsburgs), Omacach, Enniskillen Fusiliers, Hobilars, Taghhoba, Oaghancocharan (regionl units from Ireland for catholic powers), Molodyki, Storozha, Harakterniki, Serdjuks, Plastuny, Wagons with artillery ( Cossacks),
Alguaciles (Spain), Musefanen (Danemark), Minerteam (everyone).

In addition all Irish and Cossack units have their names in Irish/Ukrainian inluding the old ones like Kern - many thanks to Ranika and Sad Ronin/Ronin from the ORG forum.

- new name lists for all factions that need it,

Problems to solve:

Campaign mode still not ready. Many mistakes here and there (mostly unit support cost).

P&M 1.0 will be the next - this time with campaign mode playable.


regards Cegorach ;)
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You can download it here

http://www.totalwar....liki/pmtw07.zip

And please READ readme.txt. before extracting it to your MTW directory. ;)
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Yes / TAK :angel:

You see! I can understand Polish. Sorry didn't translate list, hardly find time to reply your post in Lordz forum.
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Here you can see some sample screens of the new map for P&M TW2

- http://www.geocities...apUpdate02.html
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Hello! Nice to see somebody from Poland here :)

Do you have your official mod site? It's difficult to search additional information about it on all of these forums.

P.S. You can answer in Polish, I can understand it well. But, in my greate shame, I can't talk in it :(
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2 cegorach:

- http://www.geocities...apUpdate02.html


It's loading too slowly :(
I can help you in creating the screenshots gallery. Do you need it?
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Do you have your official mod site? It's difficult to search additional information about it on all of these forums.

Witaj Dobermanie !!

Co do strony to wlasnie nad nia pracujemy ( I have removed all polish letters from this answer because I am not sure if I will be able to see them)

- link -

http://pwp.netcabo.p...or/pm/index.htm

Nasz mod jest obecny na wielu forum i dodatkowo niedlugo bedzie tez mial wlasne sub-forum na ORG.

Co do galerii. OK. Na razie wrzuc może czesc z tych na naszej stronie ( u gory)

i tutaj http://totalwar.org....t=685&start=285


Pozdrawiam Cegorach ;)

P.S. T byl dobry film 'Doberman', zwlaszcza ksiadz. :D
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They are perfect!!! The death for uprising Ukrainian villeins and cossacks :rolleyes:

Co do galerii. OK. Na razie wrzuc może czesc z tych na naszej stronie ( u gory)

The nearest time I'll create the gallery and notify you here.

P.S. T byl dobry film 'Doberman', zwlaszcza ksiadz. biggrin.gif

Yes! :cheers:
But the the "Ogniem i Mieczem" is better :D
When I saw the battle under the Zovti Wody in this movie - I cryed...

Co do strony to wlasnie nad nia pracujemy ( I have removed all polish letters from this answer because I am not sure if I will be able to see them)

Oh! You can use all the polish letters! Look at my sign:

"Mordować ich tak, żeby czuli że umierają!"
"Będzie o nas głośno na Ukrainie."
"A kto tu jest szczęśliwy na tej Ukrainie?!"
Jeremi Wiśniowiecki

You can see that I'm using polish letter and all is right.

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@  Ober-Leutenant : (12 Декабрь 2017 - 2:04 ) @SergSuppa, есть. Правоприменение называется.
@  Damian : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 23:02 ) имбовый гусь?
@  ПТУР Фагот : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 22:03 ) я гусимба
@  SergSuppa : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 21:52 ) А есть не теория - а практика права?
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 21:40 ) Да что вам, покаяние милее теории права?
@  ПТУР Фагот : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:30 ) @Тарпин начальник секретарь
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:27 ) два перевода конституции и учебник: государственный секретарь/ответственный секретарь/начальник секретариата. Кто он?
@  ПТУР Фагот : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:21 ) @Тарпин мы признаем только Империум Человечества и Бога-Императора.
@  ПТУР Фагот : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:20 ) здесь на форуме так красиво, что перестаю дышать я. Жертвы на минимум, чтобы не мешать покупать Харлей, фиолетовый Харлей
@  Takeda : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:17 ) Это к Обера, он у нас учёный
@  Damian : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 20:01 ) - "Коньяк". Разбил… две бутылки.
- Три!
- Пиши «три».
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:59 ) @Takeda так тоталитаризм он теперь признается, или как?
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:58 ) @Damian, провоцируешь ведь.
@  Takeda : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:58 ) Стигмат, так стигмат, главное, что по сути верно :)
@  Damian : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:52 ) Пиши с новой строчки: "Пожертвование". Подчеркни. От мотоцикла отказался.
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:49 ) О, точно. В КНР тоже суд и прокуратура в одной главе. Следы советской школы?
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:46 ) Это теперь юридический чатик.
@  Damian : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:46 ) Кому мотоцикл?
@  Тарпин : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:41 ) *голосом Коли* Отсутствие т.н. "тоталитаризма" у настоящих ученых очень огорчило меня. А как звучит! Государство полностью контролирует людишек.
@  ПТУР Фагот : (11 Декабрь 2017 - 19:39 ) Жертвуйте